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PostSubject: Lyrical concept   Fri Dec 26, 2008 11:54 am

Has anyone else thought about the lyrical concept in Morten's albums? It all seems to be following the same story in my view, all the way from Widows Weeds until now... He always writes about a dead lover, that he's a sinner and a shadow of his own self, that his life has been ruined by the sirens, about depression, his inner demons never leaving him alone, suicide and the afterlife.

Now, this is merely a theory, and it may very well be totally wrong, mind you, but if you puzzle all his lyrics together, it can seem as if he had a girlfriend, and another girl tempted him and seduced him. Because of this, his girlfriend was devastated and took her own life. Morten was of course totally ruined by this, by longing, by extreme guilt, by a wish to meet her again. The sirens, which he has named his band from, is a very good metaphor for a temptress ruining one's life. It all makes very much sense if you read the lyrics with this in mind, and such an extreme episode would also be a very strong motivational factor for making art about it, to her memory, and to keep him going on, always stuck in this state.

Any thoughts? Like I said, just a theory. There are other theories as well, there's a guy on the Tristania forums who thinks the whole Beyond the Veil album is about american suicide cults, for example. Many different possibilites.
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PostSubject: Re: Lyrical concept   Fri Dec 26, 2008 12:25 pm

According to Morten in interview he wrote a story and the lyrics he written is based off of the story which after being fired from Tristania he kept the same story going with Sirenia.

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PostSubject: Re: Lyrical concept   Fri Dec 26, 2008 1:26 pm

He has also said that some songs are worte to match the dark tones of the music.
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PostSubject: Re: Lyrical concept   Mon Jan 05, 2009 8:35 am

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According to Morten in interview he wrote a story and the lyrics he written is based off of the story which after being fired from Tristania he kept the same story going with Sirenia.

his concepts are difficoult to understand
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PostSubject: Re: Lyrical concept   Tue Jan 13, 2009 6:12 am

I do like your theory through. Morten is hard to figure out.

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PostSubject: Re: Lyrical concept   Wed Jan 14, 2009 11:25 am

You should know very well Morten as person before trying to understand the concept.
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PostSubject: Re: Lyrical concept   Thu Jan 29, 2009 5:54 am

Thats true.

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PostSubject: Re: Lyrical concept   Thu Jan 29, 2009 6:07 am

yes

then, what is that door?
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PostSubject: Re: Lyrical concept   Thu Jan 29, 2009 7:53 am

door?

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PostSubject: Re: Lyrical concept   Thu Jan 29, 2009 9:25 am

yes
in the lyrics he keeps on talking about doors and keys
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PostSubject: Re: Lyrical concept   Thu Jan 29, 2009 2:39 pm

I think it has to deal with obstacles which you can't figure out on how to overcome them.
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PostSubject: Re: Lyrical concept   Thu Jan 29, 2009 2:44 pm

But when he talks about doors and keys it usually reletes to his metal state. And if you notice its always when he is talking about death.
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PostSubject: Re: Lyrical concept   Fri Jan 30, 2009 5:17 am

yes, you're right
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PostSubject: Re: Lyrical concept   Sun Feb 01, 2009 4:53 pm

He has metion seven a few times too.

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PostSubject: Re: Lyrical concept   Mon Feb 02, 2009 2:57 am

yes
I think it's because

he was born on the 4th december 1977

4th december= 4 /12 = 4+1+2= 7

Then 77 in his year of birth
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PostSubject: Re: Lyrical concept   Wed Feb 11, 2009 5:49 am

Has anyone notice how often he talks about summer?

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PostSubject: Re: Lyrical concept   Wed Feb 11, 2009 8:01 am

Lolllll XDDD

Good theories!!

Answering with my opinion to the first comment, I'll say (because I've some background to talk about as I like making songs, kind of goth metal with choirs and so, in FLStudio 7) that you don't have to live a great story in your life to write music. So perhaps yes, he is writting about his own experience in life and frustrated love, but perhaps not...

What you have to do when you write a song is to have plenty of imagination, think about a place and a story (maybe he likes Sirens and Sumers and that's all...). For example Nightwish talks about Night and the Ocean all the time, perhaps for the same reason. Autumn is always talking about Rivers and Autumns...

Just think of that, he probably only talks about he likes, places, weather, seasons, feelings, and mithology, everything coming only from his his imagination, and not from past he has lived...
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PostSubject: Re: Lyrical concept   Wed Feb 11, 2009 8:03 am

And doors...yes they can be obstacles in your life, but they also can be a moment when you've to take a decision, that's why he talks for example of "seven keys" and "nine doors"...don't you think?
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PostSubject: Re: Lyrical concept   Wed Feb 11, 2009 8:04 am

As a song writer I understand the imagination part. And since Morten has said in past interviews he just writes what fits the music your probably right.

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PostSubject: Re: Lyrical concept   Wed Feb 11, 2009 8:07 am

But at the same time i wonder if any of it is base upon stuff he has went through.

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PostSubject: Re: Lyrical concept   Wed Feb 11, 2009 9:08 am

trying to understand the meaning of Morten's lyrics is the favourite game of me and my friend Francesco.

We noticed that he talks about:
-doors
-keys
-summer
-demons
-the number 7
-the numer 9
-rivers
-reapers
-sirens
-fire


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PostSubject: Re: Lyrical concept   Wed Feb 11, 2009 9:10 am

Malingraux wrote:
And doors...yes they can be obstacles in your life, but they also can be a moment when you've to take a decision, that's why he talks for example of "seven keys" and "nine doors"...don't you think?

yes.. and, since the doors are 9 and the keys are 7, it means there are some decisions he can't take
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PostSubject: Re: Lyrical concept   Thu Feb 12, 2009 3:14 pm

sirens and rivers make sense. But the others I wonder about.
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PostSubject: Re: Lyrical concept   Sun Feb 15, 2009 6:46 am

the number 7 is easy to explain : Morten's date of birth

the doors and the keys can have lots of explains
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PostSubject: Re: Lyrical concept   Sat Feb 28, 2009 12:48 pm

Morten's lyrics are wierd, never really understandet them lol, maybe thats what he wanted!
Though i hate the everlasting word ''siren'', and they got the worst songtitle ever, Sirens of The Seven Seas, thats sounds like some pirates lol
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